[brennankreiman]

Similar story as Four Roses rye whiskey, they make most of the rye whiskey in the United States and it all gets relabeled and marked up by branding marketing etc...

[tptacek]

Four Roses doesn't make a rye of any sort. I think you're thinking of Midwest Grain Products (the old Seagrams distillery), which does in fact supply rye distillate to a large number of whiskey bottlers.

[oflannabhra]

This is false. I’ve been to Four Roses Distillery. Their operation doesn’t have anywhere near the capacity you are talking about.

[tptacek]

It's false, but Four Roses has what was a few years ago the 7th largest whiskey still in the country (by capacity), larger than MGPI's, which is in fact the still that supplies most rye to bogus NDP "distilleries".

(MGPI rye is quite good, but you shouldn't pay a premium for it. They're finally doing their own bottlings now, which is good news for consumers.)

[oflannabhra]

Yes, they are large. They just completed a $55 million expansion that will double their capacity (obviously bourbon has a significant lag-time).

Four Roses is owned by Kirin Holdings, one of the top alcoholic beverage conglomerates.

It was the case that the Four Roses brand was heavily tarnished for decades as a blended whiskey, when owned by Seagrams.