[ProAm]

> Every single time humanity visibly progresses, it is because one person (or many) found a problem with themselves or the state they were living in and attempted to remove the problem in hopes of having themselves or their environment become more 'perfect'

I'd venture to say more human progress is attributed to warfare than anything else.

[intrasight]

I'd venture to say that you are very wrong to say that. I used to believe that too, but I've changed my opinion about what is "progress".

[jcims]

Isn’t that just a subset of what ProAm described?

[ProAm]

Yes, I could see it that way. Much of warfare seems unnecessary though, rooted in greed.