[mkirklions]

Ib4 apple downvote storm.

Dev here, I actively campaign against Apple (and FAAG) products.

They seem like a danger to our capitalistic system as they have enough power to sway politics.

Apple has always been anti-dev from my point of view, forcing users to use their hardware and pay to produce apps.

While there doesnt seem to be many 'good guys', Apple has used their weight to constantly do unpopular things for their customers and developers.

My only hope is that Apple will fail to innovate, and users will begin to go toward more consumer and dev friendly high end products.

[dasil003]

What about the fact that Apple is the only big guy not profiting off the mass harvesting of personal data? I think the market is significantly worse off without their influence (although this article does raise alarm bells).

[mkirklions]

They have hostile business tactics, does that wash that they use your data internally at Apple only?

For someone that doesnt mind getting tailored ads, the privacy argument is a non-issue. I am curious how long this will last at Apple as well, they don't strike me as a company that wouldnt sell your data.

EDIT: HN is very weak when it comes to critical thinking on Apple products...

[drywater]

>toward more consumer and dev friendly high end products.

Such as?

[dragonwriter]

> They seem like a danger to our capitalistic system as they have enough power to sway politics.

Business owners using their power to sway government is the foundation and backbone of capitalism, historically (sure, it may violate post hoc rationalizations of capitalism, but those have little to do with capitalism as it has existed in the real world anyway.)

[oksawe]

- They seem like a danger to our capitalistic system

Good! Capitalism has failed a great many people.

[bobjordan]

Well, I'm not trying to goad a downvote storm. But, having dealt with Apple, getting my China factory approved in the Apple MFi program. In about three months, their terrible and unethical business practices in dealing with their Apple MFI program factories in China, literally made me completely switch my business strategy, and end up telling them to shove it. Blessing in disguise. I'll prefer to build popcorn stands, literally anything, is better than spending our time and resources to be abused by them.