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by YorkshireSeason
2790 days ago
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I completely agree with you. It's a difficult subject. I have proposed
the following two definitions: 1. Philosophers in the original article: best understood as acedemic
philosopers. 2. Progress in AI/maths/hard science: comes from those who actually
"do the maths/implementation/repeatable measurement" as opposed to
using natural language only for discussing their ideas. In my opinion the purpose of all science is truth, and truth (pace
Socrates and the slave boy) must -- among other things -- be
reproducable by others, ideally by every human. Technology for truth
has improved over time, with mathematisation (and edge case
programming and exectuion on a computer) as the current state of the
art in reproducibility. When Frege succeeded in formalising
first-order logic, the sacred heart of rationality, informal methods
became second-class. All substantial progress in subjects formerly
restricted to informal methods has since come from formalisation and
empirical experiment. If you don't agree with my (1, 2) above, than that's fine, we are talking abotu (slightly) different things. |
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* the formalization and regimentation of natural language has always been a fairly central concern in philosophy (that's where formal logic comes from);
* mathematics can be, and used to be, done in largely natural language.