[mcny]

> And arron swartz is dead. Not sure how many of the docs made public are ones that we was trying to hack in to. That incident will always leave a bitter taste in my mouth.

Makes me wonder how much overreach goes on and we don't even know about it...

Ortiz and Heymann are definitely horrible people in my eyes but we have to think of them as responding to incentives. They saw they had an opportunity to pad their numbers and went for it. I don't think we have done anything to fix the core issue, which I think is how do we judge the performance of a prosecutor?

[unknownkadath]

I mean, isn't morality all about doing the right thing in the face of perverse incentives? If status gains can be used to excuse anything we do, where will it all end?

[kolleykibber]

With better incentives hopefully. Nature has no care for morality.

[unknownkadath]

If you find a prosecutor in nature, you should contact Sir David Attenborough. That would have the makings of an extraordinary documentary!

[hedvig]

Humans do. Humans are the only species with the capability to transcend their nature.

[makapuf]

But do you think they have this ability ... by nature ? Which makes it human nature ? Which is thus not transcended ? This can be an argument to say that having the innate sense of good vs bad (if that's a thing) can have a species incentive, not an individual incentive. which we share with many species, come to think of it.