[nickthemagicman]

Yeah but most people don't have the environment growing up to appreciate learning and knowledge.

Learning itself is a skill...and University teaches you how to learn and to appreciate knowledge...no matter what degree you get you're better off afterwards.

It's sad the capitalistic cynicism about University these days.

I have a feeling it's going to hurt us massively in the long run.

[cinquemb]

> Learning itself is a skill...and University teaches you how to learn and to appreciate knowledge

True that learning is a skill. University is not the only place people can "learn to learn", it is one option out of innumerable many that people can think of if they can so dare to imagine.

>...no matter what degree you get you're better off afterwards.

I think some people would question this when they get to the point where they are destitute trying to pay off loans that they can't discharge, which I'm not sure how capitalist non discharagble loans are. Usually, a lendee being able to default on a loan is the risk lenders take when underwriting…

> I have a feeling it's going to hurt us massively in the long run.

I disagree with that statement, the church (like universities are now) use to be a massive powerful force that acted as a gate keeper to knowledge, and over time, became mostly irrelevant to such ends…

[DrJones1098]

>University is not the only place people can "learn to learn.

I disagree. There are no institutions in modern capitalism that teach you how to learn if you don't already know how. It's extremely rare for them to even train you in skills they need if you already KNOW how to learn.

>think some people would question this when they get to the point where they are destitute trying to pay off loans

Hence my original point...

> Claiming that universities are a gate keeper to knowledge in the age of the internet...

You are missing the point of universities and basically everything I've just said.

[cinquemb]

> I disagree. There are no institutions in modern capitalism that teach you how to learn if you don't already know how. It's extremely rare for them to even train you in skills they need if you already KNOW how to learn.

Man, how did people ever learn to do anything before institutions arise? Oh yes, the glorious institutions of spear making and rock chucking.

> Hence my original point...

Calling something capitalist when it is not? Seems like a straw man… no matter what the institution, perverse incentives will corrupt it if left unchecked, society will either put a bullet to its head, or make it irrelevant in the long run except to the most ardent believers.

> > Claiming that universities are a gate keeper to knowledge in the age of the internet... You are missing the point of universities and basically everything I've just said.

I said nothing about the internet, you added that.

I'm sure there were priests proselytizing in the past to others about the point of the Church in the pursuit of knowledge…

[nickthemagicman]

Comparing spear making and rock chucking to modern knowledge acquisition...

It's actually a perfect metaphor for conservative vs progressives views of the world.