[manfredo]

The point in making is, the injuries you listed are the result of actions, not words. Trying to equate words with actions of a few people that act on them is a very dangerous line of thinking. It's the same logic behind people that wanted to ban Muslims from entering the country after 9/11. After all, if 11 people shot dead is sufficient to warrant suppression of speech, then surely 3 thousand does as well. And for what it's worth, many of the groups to which I belong have been and continue to be targeted by extremists. Your claim that, "When you are the target, you have no choice" is factually incorrect.

And whether or not the NSDAP would have still siezed power if the crackdown had been more onerous is speculation. Perhaps it would have further incensed the party and only made it stronger.

[watwut]

Nevertheless, you made quite a lot of untrue statements previously. You don't care about that, pushing yet another point unrelated point.

Suddenly we are talking about 9/11 through we talked about nazism before. Because apparently to you, there is equivalence between being Muslim and being Nazi. As if Nazism had many interpretations (it does not have) or as if it allowed peaceful coexistence with others in some branches. It does not, the ideology itself is closer to ISIS ideology - it demands obedience, violent masculinity, winners take all mentality and demands to conquer the world.

Note that I did not said whether and what limitations should there be on speech. But, my impression is that people who pretend to care about that are more interested in making Nazi sound better then they are.

Regardless of whether there should be limitations on speech, speech we are talking about is especially crafted and designed to make people take violent action. It is done for that purpose and synagogue shooting (or beheading) is its success as intended. Lets not lie or pretend it is otherwise.

[manfredo]

> Because apparently to you, there is equivalence between being Muslim and being Nazi.

I'm sorry but this is such a blatant fabrication that I cannot take any further words you write seriously. Any reasonable reading of my comment would recognize that references to Islam is to serve as an example of an intolerance perpetrated under the rationale of excluding the intolerant (e.g. calls to ban Muslims after 9/11). Did you ignore the part where I prefaced this as a "very dangerous line of thinking"? The whole point is that "intolerance of the intolerant is okay" often fuels intolerant thinking itself. How you concluded that my comments equated Islam with Nazism is beyond me.

[watwut]

> Any reasonable reading of my comment would recognize that references to Islam is to serve as an example of an intolerance perpetrated under the rationale of excluding the intolerant (e.g. calls to ban Muslims after 9/11).

To make that point with proper analogy, you would have to use ISIS or al-Qaeda as an example. The trouble is, that such ban would make sense to quite a lot of people. There, the discussion is whether it is ok to lock them indefinitely on island without process or torture them, generally most people are perfectly fine with America not allowing those to enter. There is an actual ban in place for suspect or admitted ISIS members.

The other possible equivalence would be all Germans ban or ban on teaching all German originated philosophies. Which is not really the topic, since the discussion up there was limited to Nazism.