[adrianN]

You don't acknowledge an ethical difference between a pig that has never seen the sun and lived on barely enough room to stand and a pig that has been held in a way that accommodated its natural behaviors?

[nhangen]

There is an ethical difference yes, but it’s still a net negative. We don’t need to kill in order to eat. We just choose to.

[xyzzy123]

It gets ethically weird for me when I contemplate hypothetical pigs that had happy lives but would not have existed if they were not farmed. Kinda Logan’s run? But pigs.

The utilitarian in me wants to see the existence of the pig as an ethical net positive overall.

[johnchristopher]

I think the argument that eating the pig raised in dark factory is better than the pig that had a life is valid.

[nhangen]

Sure, but that doesn't make it "ethical." It's still killed, and nothing wants to be killed.