[astine]

At least that sheep has a vote. I dislike eminent domain abuse as much as anyone but there is a big difference between what property right abuse looks like now and what it would look like without a discernible and relatively incorrupt government.

[anamax]

> there is a big difference between what property right abuse looks like now and what it would look like without a discernible and relatively incorrupt government.

Those aren't the only possibilities. (And relatively incorrupt is optimistic. It isn't consistently corrupt.)

Consider the sudan (no functioning govt) with zimbabwe (malevolent govt). It's not obvious that the sudan is worse.

Also, remember that the effective genocides have had govt backing.