[GrumpiNerd]

Being able to not rely on government assistance for ANYTHING, including health care, would be a start.

[dang]

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[icebraining]

Good luck finding a single person on a developed country who fits this description. If anything, people with incredible drive lean on government assistance the most (e.g. Elon Musk and his two heavily-subsidized companies), because they know how to find leverage to accomplish their goals.

[engineeringwoke]

As a young, successful stoner living in Western Europe, I salute your ignorance

[dang]

Please be civil on Hacker News.

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