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by tomp 2788 days ago
Huh? Trump approved the space force and further missions to the moon, which will hopefully result in much more spending on space-related technologies. He's renegotiating global free trade agreements, which is definitely a good thing (I'm not entirely on board with how he's renegotiating them, but the status quo is bad, and if people are more willing to renegotiate, that makes me optimistic). He's done more progress with NK than anyone else in the last x0 years.

On the other hand, Obama invaded 2 countries and kept on waging a war in two others. He also lied about closing Guantanamo Bay.

It's easy to come up with one-sided examples for any politician. That's what politics is, really - the game of (shitty) trade-offs.

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> It's easy to come up with one-sided examples for any politician

Except unlike with Trump, with Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, the nominees from the other major party who ran against those, most governors in the last 100 years, most of the Senate for the last 100 years, probably a majority of the members of the House of Representatives over the last 100 years, and probably even a large majority of state legislators...if you got into a tit for tat exchange of one-sided examples with a supporter of your candidate's opponent, you'd both run out at about the same time and each would have scored about equally.

PS: it may have been unclear, because I should have also quoted your next sentence, "That's what politics is, really - the game of (shitty) trade-offs", as that was actually more of what I was addressing.

The point was that the trade-offs with Trump are way beyond the normal parameters we've had to consider trading off before. Pick various politicians and go look up their records on fact check sites. They are all pretty terrible, but Trump takes it to a new level of terribleness.

Fair enough but personally I don’t care how many feathers are in your cap if you promote hatred the way Trump does. that’s just me though. Also I’m canadian :)