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by bilbo0s 2787 days ago
(sigh)

I've tried to explain this to people from outside Wisconsin before. Why don't I just repost a sort of run down of just a few of the kinds of things you can expect to see from our "extraordinarily well run" government here in Wisconsin:

>"We've had our share of bent DA's here in Wisconsin. Probably the best story I can tell you about is a DA that would allow drug dealers and other criminals to "contribute to charity" in lieu of going to jail for their crimes. Of course, all of the "charities" they could contribute to were controlled by he and his buddies. (This way they could make sure all the "contributions" went for the benefit of the local community you see.) It got so bad that drug dealers were routing their shipments through that municipality because if you get caught, you just paid the bribe. I mean, "charity". You didn't have to go to jail.

I won't go into too much detail on this one, because it's disgusting. That said, we have a juvenile detention facility where the guards were discovered to have using the boys for... Well, I think you can figure it out. If not just Google "Lincoln Hills". (but I'd recommend just ... yeah... just not googling it.)

Moving on, we have something called the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation. Basically everyone chips in to a fund, via taxes, and that fund gives money to entrepreneurs and businesses to stimulate economic growth. That's the idea. In practice, whatever politician is in power funnels the money to his/her cronies. They're pretty open about it too. So small businesses in the state end up having to make do with whatever they get out of the federal SBA. Because the big political guys take all the money from WEDC.

And that's just scratching the surface with the criminal related stuff. There's all kinds of political and public spending related stuff that happens here all the time. There's the typical police corruption that you need to look out for. Man don't even get me started on Wisconsin's part in the VA nursing home scandal. Wisconsin is so bad that at one point there were 100's of thousands of protesters outside our Capitol building in Madison. We're just a really bent state, and there's not much that can be done about it because of how we're set up. There's a lot going on up here. Despite what you may have heard on Netflix, the corruption up here is not ALL about Steven Avery.

Illustrative factoid, there is a restaurant in Madison right on the Capitol Square. It's pretty conveniently located for the state senators and assemblypeople. Kind of a nice place too.

What's it's name?

"Graft", I kid you not.

Located on the ground floor of a building full of lobbyists. I mean, "lawyers". Right across from the Capitol.

I know that sounds just WAY too brazen, but it's a true story..."

PS - People generally REALLY find the part about the Graft restaurant difficult to believe. I understand. So I encourage you, don't take my word for it. Go ahead, Google it.

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Fellow Wisconsinite here. I went to UW Madison when the protests you mentioned were happening. The 100's of thousands of protestors you mentioned were bussed in from all over the country. Many of which were bought and paid for by all sorts of Political motivators. I literally would ask people why they were here and they would say "because I'm getting paid $10/hr to hold this sign".

If you are going to site examples of a states corruption, at least use concrete evidence rather than vague allusions. The only real corruption you listed was an on individual/(small group) basis. This is not an indicator of a corrupt system, but rather anecdotal evidence of a the most noteworthy bad apples.

Overall in my very humble opinion I have found that the Wisconsin government is fairly well run.

Finally I don't see how the name of a restaurant has anything to do with government corruption. The name is purely based on its location, (within 400 ft from the capitol), and has nothing to do with politics. Also they have great food, I would highly recommend trying it out!

Also, those protests weren't about corruption. They were mostly about labor policy.
I lived in WI for years and have family there.

Everything mentioned in your post is relatively recent. If you go back even a decade or two, a lot in WI government was working well.

I guess it just depends on what you mean by "very recent," to me that would mean at most 5 years ago (and really I'd think more recently than that because all I can think about when I hear Wisconsin is the 'Making a Murderer' clusterfuck).
I see. Yeah, I meant more like 10-30 years.

I measure governments in terms of "politician generations", so 5-10 years is still "the present" in the sense that anything less than 10 years can very easily encapsulate just a single set of people in leadership.

Keep in mind that 'Making a Murderer' is heavily dramatized for television purposes. Also the show purposefully leaves out information,

https://onmilwaukee.com/movies/articles/evidenceagainstavery...

They bring up a lot of the missing evidence in the second season. You're allowed to draw your own conclusion from the case, but it's obvious to me the whole thing wasn't just bullshit but that the police department coordinated a coverup for a murder. Even if that wasn't the case, they violated so many laws by illegally ignoring proper procedure that the sheriff, district attorney, and interrogating officers should all lose their jobs and potentially face criminal charges.
"Graft" just sounds like a restaurant with a possibly-punny or possibly-coincidental name, given its location; what's sinister about that?
You still haven't addressed the most troubling part of your claims here, that "there's not much that can be done about it because of how we're set up.". What does that mean?