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by sam0x17 2794 days ago
They aren't mutually exclusive, but they are either a) at odds with each other because the frontend is in javascript and the backend is in Rails or Python or something else, or b) completely in sync because the backend and front end is in javascript, but terrible because the backend and the front end is in javascript. With web assembly on the horizon we will soon have Rust/Crystal/Go-driven unified backend+frontends, and then we can finally exit this dark age of JS being the only front end language.
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goliatone 2794 days ago
I have not had the chance yet to play with it but it’s very high in my list, drab an extension library for the Phoenix framework “providing an access to the browser's User Interface (DOM objects) from the server side”.

A friend did an experimental library way back using server sent events for the Yii framework. I don’t think I fully appreciated the idea back then. Admittedly Elixir seems a better fit for this pattern than PHP tho

https://tg.pl/drab

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friedman23 2794 days ago
As someone that prefers python it is unfortunate that the only way to get SSR is to commit to JS but with web assembly I think we will eventually have tools such as React and Redux be translated to other languages.

As far as performance goes js isn't too bad. It's async by default and a lot of effort has gone into making it run fast.

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sam0x17 2794 days ago
Yeah I actually have few problems with js itself. It's npm and this tendency to have a million 3 line dependencies. In, for example, the ruby gems ecosystem, there just isn't that problem.
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