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by kadendogthing 2788 days ago
> It's patently obvious that none of these asshole techbros has ever actually tried at all, right?

It's also pretty obvious when techbro's lack any kind of liberal arts education, or general praxis around the various subjects encompassed in liberal arts. You typically see this in discussions around government or social policies. But it can rear its head in literature to, like when the usage of satire is so out of place and crudely crafted one can't help but wonder how self-aware the person misusing it is.

> It's not possible that someone could be exposed to the glory of art, creativity, and expression without being moved to value it!

Well it certainly is possible and even likely. No one ever made any kind of point insinuating that, or even broached that subject about changing hobbies or what you enjoy. So you've definitely just misunderstood the entire discussion. I recommend rereading the topic post and this thread.

> I'm really not sure what you mean by "deflate the obstacle".

The obstacle being ego.

>I would very much like to be able to engage substantively

Well you can help yourself out by not wasting an enormous amount of energy and craftsmanship around... whatever it is you are doing.

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> The obstacle being ego.

Ah. Well. At least I now understand what you mean. Though I've found deflating the egos of every person in a discussion to be a difficult task. Telling a person getting a hostile reception to get their ego out of the way tends to come across a lot like telling someone to take the licks they deserve, complete with generally being discarded out of hand. Telling a person who feels righteous anger to deflate their ego tends to be seen as telling them their feelings aren't valid.

It's definitely possible for it to work! But I've rarely seen it accomplished.

> Well you can help yourself out by not wasting an enormous amount of energy and craftsmanship around... whatever it is you are doing.

Trying to understand you, establishing myself as someone who isn't your enemy, so we could have an actual discussion. And maybe help you understand the people you appear to viscerally despise as human beings with wants and needs and desires and goals and communities, just like the ones you love and wish to protect so that we can work towards what's best for everyone.

I'm sorry we couldn't have that discussion. I felt like it could have been productive for everyone. Have a wonderful day!

> And maybe help you understand the people you appear to viscerally despise as human beings

I'm sorry, who do I despise exactly? I'm not sure what you're talking about.