[ehsankia]

If it was so simple to take handheld long exposure photos, how come no other phone had done it yet? I think you are overly simplifying this. At a high level it might be a simple concept, but clearly getting it working in practice isn't simple otherwise every company out there would've added it years ago.

[endorphone]

Lots of other phones do let you do it, usually in pro or manual setting. It requires a pre-requisite of good OIS (which paradoxically the Pixel 1 didn't have, claiming that it wasn't necessary -- because of some magic AI sauce or something -- and seeing that noise repeated across the tubs. They added it with 2 and 3) and usually it is hidden behind an interface.

Why? Because 99.9999% of smartphone photos in real use (e.g. not in a review), give or take 100%, are of people. People move. Long exposures just lead to bad outcomes and blurred people.

I mean seriously search the net for Pixel 3 night mode. It's like the Suit Is Back. They're even using the same verbiage across them. And the uproarious nonsense about Google using AI to colourize is just...well a place like HN should just be chuckling at it.

[ehsankia]

> Lots of other phones do let you do it, usually in pro or manual setting.

That's single frame long exposure, not many frames merged. And as you mention, unless you have a tripod or extremely good low light stabilization, in most cases you'll end up with a bad photo.

I would definitely like to see more with actual people in them, your point about humans moving is fair one, and I'd like to see how it handles them. That's where taking multiple shots and merging them vs a single super long shot would make a big difference, as you can smartly deblur things.

[gst]

> Lots of other phones do let you do it, usually in pro or manual setting. It requires a pre-requisite of good OIS (which paradoxically the Pixel 1 didn't have, claiming that it wasn't necessary -- because of some magic AI sauce or something -- and seeing that noise repeated across the tubs.

Night Sight works perfectly fine on the Pixel 1.

> Why? Because 99.9999% of smartphone photos in real use (e.g. not in a review), give or take 100%, are of people. People move. Long exposures just lead to bad outcomes and blurred people.

I tested Night Sight with pictures of people and it also works fine in those cases. Even pictures takes with the front camera (without a tripod, etc.) look great.

[endorphone]

The very article linked notes that moving subjects like people turn into a blur. Of the various submarine stories about this, I've seen a single picture of a kid, and the kid is blurred (despite standing as still as they can).

Your Pixel 1 likely sets a ceiling on the exposure time. The results may be great to you, but I doubt they compare to a Pixel 3. And of course in all of these cases about these great photos, there are zero examples from any other devices. Just with and without on a Pixel device.