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>But let's go back to my initial statement: "The general rule is: You don't need supplements." What you are saying doesn't contradict that. What I meant with my too long additonal comments was just that the more you need to eat (e.g. due to exercise), the less supplements you need - if you ever needed any at all. Which is the opposite of how certain "health" and training magazines state it.

I did not present a counter argument for your initial statement. That was not my concern and I agree with your statement.

The main issue was the conclusion you were drawing between a sedentary lifestyle on a vegan diet. Considering vegetables are some of the most nutrient-dense foods relative to their calorie content, sedentary vegans following a diet rich in these low-calorie nutrient-dense foods will have an advantage over people who consume animal meat and follow the same calorie count.

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Vegetables are nutrient-dense - no question there. And I was on a mostly vegetarian diet when I did competition bicycling in my youth, simply because I just couldn't get enough nutrients any other way. The problem with a pure vegetarian diet is only that it doesn't cover all your needs, or not completely at least. The trace elements again. If you eat enough of it, no problem in general. If you eat like a bird you may have a problem. And may need some kind of supplements.