[slacka]

Why are you conflating RoundUp (NOT even a pesticide) with all GMOs? Attacking GMO technology because of one company's misuse is like attacking electricity because of the electric chair.

We're talking about replacing pesticides. Monsanto is in the business of selling herbicides and pesticides, so of course they're not going to use the tech to neuter their profits. If anything they are benefiting from the negative press and comments like your own as it discourage the public from supporting the necessary government research. I doubt this will come from private corporations as the profit motive just isn't there.

[cmrdporcupine]

RoundUp is a pesticide. Glyphosate. A herbicide.

Maybe you mean "RoundUp Ready?"

The actual real world of GMO, the stuff that is actually marketed and sold -- it's like 90% about herbicide resistance, nothing else.

[throwaway5752]

RoundUp is the trade name for glyphosate, which is an herbicide, not a pesticide. RoundUp Ready is the trade name for glyphosate-resistant strains of crops. RoundUp and RoundUp Ready are both copyrights of Monsanto.

[cmrdporcupine]

Herbicides are pesticides.

Insecticides are also pesticides.

I have my Ontario sprayer's license in my wallet. I had to take a day long course on this topic to get it. Own a hobby farm.

Thanks.

[throwaway5752]

Thanks for the correction - that's been a long term misconception of mine, apparently. I thought pesticides as a term excluded herbicides (basically catch all term for insecticides, rodenticides). Seriously, I appreciate that very much.

[chabes]

Herbicides are technically a class of pesticides

[tomp]

I'm not conflating. I'm providing an example of a GMO that's still requires a pesticide. I'd like a counterexample of a GMO that actually REDUCES/ELIMINATES pesticide usage, as the parent claimed that GMOs do.

In theory, GMOs don't need pesticides. I'm asking about practice. Most other comments support my skepticism.

[dragontamer]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_maize

> Bt corn is a variant of maize that has been genetically altered to express one or more proteins from the bacterium Bacillus thuringiensis[8] including Delta endotoxins. The protein is poisonous to certain insect pests. Spores of the bacillus are widely used in organic gardening[9], although GM corn is not considered organic. The European corn borer causes about a billion dollars in damage to corn crops each year.[10]

> In 2018 a study found that Bt-corn protected nearby fields of non-Bt corn and nearby vegetable crops, reducing the use of pesticides on those crops. Data from 1976-1996 (before Bt corn was widespread) was compared to data after it was adopted (1996-2016). They examined levels of the European corn borer and corn earworm. Their larvae eat a variety of crops, including peppers and green beans. Between 1992 and 2016, the amount of insecticide applied to New Jersey pepper fields decreased by 85 percent. Another factor was the introduction of more effective pesticides that were applied less often.[18]

[chabes]

Herbicides are pesticides. You’re probably thinking of insecticides..