I'm turkish and because of hidden arabic imperialism and assimilation rooted deep in islam, I refuse to use even arabic words which are common in turkish.
this is not a fair comparison. arabic words when spoken, are always assumed to have religious connotations first whereas english is always assumed to have contextual connotations first. it is a huge distinction
Fanfare is surely related to latin fanum, temple, whence fanatic, but good to know there's an arabic connection.
Edit: Some nationalist tendencies would even try to find a turkic root, for everything, and there might be some reason to it with the prominent location of anatolia, but historical location and language is hard to trace, of turks and of whoever else stayed there.
As someone coming from an Arabic Muslim country, I'm really interested to understand why you have this view.
In my country (Egypt), Turkey is actually seen as being a huge part of Islamic history, and it's often cited as a proof of the diversity of the Islamic and Arabic world that it was hugely impacted by the Turkish culture (Words, Foods..etc).
Because Turkey is a very heterogeneous country with different people mostly deeply disliking each other (sad but true). Diversity != tolerance. I lived in the Bay Area and Boston area for years, and for example, these cities are more ethnically and racially diverse, but in my experience Istanbul is much more culturally rich (i.e. there are more heterogeneous groups). Inside this group there are "secular" and "religious" Turks who are roughly half of Turks. Due to years of politics and other stuff, these groups deeply hate each other. They try to live differently, act different, eat different stuff and even talk different languages. I grew up in a "secular" middle/upper class Turkish family (my family was also non-practicing Muslim) and when I met more religious people in my high school years it was clear even the language we speak was different. For me, I grew up in a bubble and never had any contact with any culture other than mine (except some Jewish people who were majority where I lived). Anyway, pretty much all groups had a similar experience, but when one of them has the power, they basically try to control everyone and this brings insane amount of frustration to other side. The entire political history of the Republic is all about seculars trying to make conservatives secular and vice versa. This is so crazy it affects things like language, education, art etc... I was very frustrated of this whole mess and luckily (thanks to my family's wealth) I went to US for undergrad to restart my life.
>I'm turkish and because of hidden arabic imperialism and assimilation rooted deep in islam, I refuse to use even arabic words which are common in turkish.
Ahem, but I think most Arabs complain about Turkish imperialism. I don't think Turkey was ever conquered by the Arabs, but the reverse is true.
They can complain whatever they want to but here are the facts.
Turks brutally were murdered almost 70-80 years to turned to be a muslim and start believing arab god to survive.
Turks adopted all the arabic culture/traditions as part of islam. Turks used arabic alphabet along with the bunch of arabic words. Even nowadays current government is pushing more islamic/arabic values to turkish people as part of islamization process.
I’m not surprised Turkish is simpler. It was “reformed” so much after the foundation of the republic that modern Turks can’t understand Ottoman Turkish. It was written in Arabic script and had a great, great many Arabic and Persian words.
> Owing to this sudden change in the language, older and younger people in Turkey started to differ in their vocabularies. While the generations born before the 1940s tend to use the older terms of Arabic or Persian origin, the younger generations favor new expressions. It is considered particularly ironic that Atatürk himself, in his lengthy speech to the new Parliament in 1927, used a style of Ottoman which sounded so alien to later listeners that it had to be "translated" three times into modern Turkish: first in 1963, again in 1986, and most recently in 1995.
Of course it worked, now we can easily understand other turkic people from Kygrzystan, Uzbekistan, Uyghur, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan.
It’s one of the most important and critical reform, Ataturk did.
Some quite common words are on that list: jumper, cat, fanfare...