[igouy]

> Real java projects …

Can take much longer, and are engineered so that users don't experience a delay.

The users interact with a system that is already launched and up-to-speed. So much for Hello world!

[thethirdone]

I was just trying to come up with a real situation where there is a 2 order of magnitude difference.

Obviously in many situations you can mitigate the startup time. However, it does lock Java out of being a good replacement for git or other quick command line tools.

[igouy]

Not if jgit is already launched and sitting around waiting for commands.