[horatiocain]

Humanity needs to get radically better at funding startups without all the salesmanship

I swear to god, there needs to be a much, much better system to just incentivize people building useful-to-humanity inventions. So far we've tried: survival (got us fire and farming), traditional societies (got us guns and religion), and capitalism (ouch)

[bdcravens]

I don't think what you describing is a startup. Most definitions point to pre-sustainability while a company searches for a path to sustainability (meaning it's reliant on itself, not outside funding). Just because it has code in it doesn't mean it's a startup necessarily.

That said, even what you're describing requires sales. Sales is just persuasion with agreement resulting in a transaction.