[criddell]

> Ideas are the only counter to other ideas and how we communicate those idea is via speech.

A lot of holders of bad ideas have no interest in rational debate. For those people, sunlight is an energy source, not an antiseptic.

When ISIS posts a video of a beheading, there isn't a lot of reasonable discussion going on in the comment section.

[mrkstu]

Those aren't just ideas- those are vicious actions. I don't think giving access to those we are actively at physical odds with is within bounds of debating ideas.

I doubt the founding fathers were inviting Quislings to their debating societies during the revolutionary war.

[criddell]

Well, if you don't have a problem with ostracizing groups like ISIS or white supremacists, then maybe we don't disagree that much.

[mrkstu]

Are we at war with white supremacists? ANTFIA? Venezuela?

Equating ISIS with supremacists is equating a nuclear bomb with an M80 firecracker.

[criddell]

Well that brings up an interesting question: is the US at war with ISIS? I know Congress authorized action against the Taliban and Al Qaeda and maybe that's all that's needed to go after other groups.