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by lsc 5710 days ago
well, the phenomena of using bugzilla and other web based bug tracking systems is a fairly recent one. And certainly if they are posting good stuff, it doesn't really matter if they are posting good stuff on a mailing list or on a bugzilla or what have you. I'm just making a historical observation that the people who have been around a while tend to use mailing lists.

but yeah, I do think there is something a little fishy about a SysAdmin who doesn't have any public evidence of collaboration. I mean, sure, they could be really good and just have worked places that don't let you give your changes back, but eh, you can say that about any other metric. You must have added a feature to something at some point. You must have been the first user to find a particular bug at some point.

The biggest problem with this metric is that search kind of sucks for mailing lists. I mean, usenet used to be /the place/ for this sort of thing, but usenet is dead, and as far as I can tell, much of the usenet archives that at one point I could access via dejanews are gone (groups.google does not have some of the posts that I know are there.)

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FWIW, if you look at any of the senior people who work for me, they'll have little to no activity during their tenure. Here's why:

1) One individual has final responsibility for our platform. We run a modified version of FreeBSD, which includes both changes that are only appropriate for our own use, and some changes that are more generally applicable.

The other devs and admins submit any patches they need on all the servers to the individual, and he deals with them. Sometimes they stay private, sometimes they go public, but when they go public they go out in his name. He has responsibility of tracking when they're accepted upstream, and when they're included in the base distro.

2) The vast majority of our platform is very, very tried and true. We use a few cutting edge bits of software (new versions and new features), but that's the exception. As such, most of our bugs are found well in advance.

3) The most troublesome bits of our platform are commercial or completely proprietary, so support on those parts doesn't hit a public mailing list anywhere.

I was trying to understand why your response annoyed me so much, and I realized it's because if I had to lay off my best unix guys, you advocate that employers google their name, see nothing on the mailing lists, and pass on them. That annoys me.

I take a lot of pride in being a good employer, and meanwhile you're standing there advocating anally-extracted screening criteria that would hurt my guys.

So where could an automated heuristic find your guys to make an estimation of them? Citeseer? Company about page?

Aside from personal references--as if they were "in a stack of resumes."