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by gregob 2795 days ago
I was born and raised in Montreal and there is a bit of cultural shock between Americans and Quebecers.

Here, mostly in the French community, wealth isn't well perceived at all and is kind of a taboo. For some reason if you earn considerable money, say 100k which is twice the average salary in QC, people immediately assume you are doing something illegal or unethical. You can't drive a big car without getting the mean eye. Especially if you are one of those "replacing people with machines."

Moreover, the language barrier blocked the French companies to see what's going on outside of QC. This definitely keeps the salaries down and now every HR department in town think it offers competitive conditions.

You also have to know that the Engineering title is protected in Quebec and that you can't call yourself an engineer in any field without a diploma that is approved by the OIQ (http://oiq.qc.ca/Pages/accueil.aspx?lang=en).

It makes no difference in the long run but software engineers can expect around 30k more than non-engineers when getting out of school.

My friends and I make good money while studying Software Engineering full time. We are top of our class, but we make around ~80K CAD working as developers in a big Canadian bank and all have offers ranging from 120K to 180K CAD for when we graduate.

My point is that there are good opportunities in Montreal but you definitely have to shop a lot.

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> and all have offers ranging from 120K to 180K CAD for when we graduate.

I have a lot of friends in the tech industry in Montreal and this does not seem to be true at all.

You maybe top of your class but for recent graduates to earn that kind of money is unheard of.

Saying we are recent graduates is a bit of a stretch (mostly PhDs), my wording could have been better.

I totally agree these salaries don’t represent the local startup scene or even the tech scene.

If you are not looking exclusively at Startups, there is plenty of companies, especially in finance, banking, actuary and insurance, that are looking for talent in AI/Data science and can offer excellent salaries in Montreal.

Working in a (very) corporate environment isn’t for everyone but Montreal is such a nice place, imho the trade off is absolutely worth it.

If you work at code mills then salaries are capped at 90ish. If you work for actual businesses that solve real problems then the salaries are much higher. I know many people in both camps.