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by Kocrachon 2799 days ago
I doubt anyone will see my comment since I am a few hours late. BUT, I want to say, despite what bloomberg AND apple say, here is why I think Bloomberg failed on this report, and didn't do enough to PROVE their claims were accurate.

They made the flat out claim that AWS sold its Chinese infrastructure because of the hack. But this is flat out not true, anyone who actually knows anything about the Chinese goverment knows that AWS, same as Microsoft, cannot operate out of China. They are required to have a PARTNER to operate in China. I worked for Microsoft during the deployment to China, and we too had to have a partner. We were essentially "leasing" our technology for them to run it.

http://www.miit.gov.cn/n1146295/n1146557/n1146619/c4860613/c...

"According to the China Telecommunication Regulation, providers of cloud services—infrastructure as a service (IaaS) and platform as a service (PaaS)—must have value-added telecom permits. Only locally registered companies with less than 50 percent foreign investment qualify for these permits. To comply with this regulation, the Azure service in China is operated by 21Vianet, based on the technologies licensed from Microsoft.

Microsoft Azure operated by 21Vianet (Azure China 21Vianet) is a physically separated instance of cloud services located in mainland China, independently operated and transacted by Shanghai Blue Cloud Technology Co., Ltd. ("21Vianet"), a wholly owned subsidiary of Beijing 21Vianet Broadband Data Center Co., Ltd. "

So this to me proves that Bloomberg didn't fact check this story enough, and there are holes in it. Does this mean that China DIDN'T try anything? No, but this leaves me to question Bloombergs sources and not fact checking their reports, as there is obvious misinformation in it.

EDIT: I googled AWS China, and this is the FIRST link. https://www.amazonaws.cn/en/about-aws/china/

And at the bottom it covers all the same legality stuff. So again, its like they didn't even bother to research AWS China for 10 seconds.

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> anyone who actually knows anything about the Chinese goverment knows that AWS, same as Microsoft, cannot operate out of China. They are required to have a PARTNER to operate in China.

IIRC, the Bloomberg article is consistent with this. AWS sold their business interests to that partner.

I done think you read the article. It says they sold it via a partnership.