[romed]

UTP is fine for 10gig, and in fact it has much longer reach, 55m-100m depending on cable quality, compared to twinaxial which is only defined by the standards to 15m. Twinax is also bulkier and costs more.

Coax isn't defined for 10g, so it's basically worthless. Certainly not "a fuckton better" since there are literally no coax physical modules for 10g.

[arghwhat]

Wow, what a mixup of terminology.

We're on a thread about residential internet modems. In this context, "coax" means "DOCSIS" (i.e. internet over cable TV), as opposed to fiber and telephone (DSL). UTP is absolutely useless as a residential uplink, as 100 meter gets you nowhere. Telephone cables are shit, so DOCSIS and fiber is where its at.

However, you seem to be talking about direct attach cable ("DAC"), which absolutely no one mentioned. As someone who worked at a network equipment manufacturer, absolutely no one calls direct attach cables "coax". They're often called "twinax" (which is a type of coax), although this terminology is misleading and entirely irrelevant. Also, they're kind of pointless these days.

And no, while 10GBase-T is a thing, the pluggables are too expensive to make the activity worthwhile. Run fiber—it's not really more expensive, and it's future proof for when you need to setup 25G or 40G soon.

[djrogers]

UTP != ‘telephone cables’. Comparing in ground neighborhood wiring to spec’d Ethernet cabling is like comparing apples to steak.

[arghwhat]

We need to add something to the analogy to indicate how the ethernet cable (the steak) is shit at residential cabling.

Maybe directly eating (internal networking) vs. making cider (residential uplinks)? I do know that I do not wish to try steak cider.