[peterwwillis]

Tipping helps pay for a worker's living. If tipping didn't exist, the cost would just go back into the base cost of the drink. One way to get out of the embarrassment you feel is to tap the preset tip button and go on with your day.

Tipping isn't bribery. If your barista is making your coffee differently based on a tip, they're a bad barista.

[Nullabillity]

> If tipping didn't exist, the cost would just go back into the base cost of the drink.

So the advertised cost would actually be the honest that you would pay for the product. What a horrible world that would be!

[zaksoup]

One thing to keep in mind is that in many states tipped minimum wage is significantly lower than hourly minimum wage. As low as $2.50 an hour. Tipping is bad for everybody, including the workers involved, but framing tipping as purely a response to “performance” isn’t always the whole story.

[kmm]

In no state is the minimum wage the employee takes home lower than $7.25 an hour. The employer can pay them less only if the tips make up the difference, down to $2.13(!) an hour. Of course, most waiters and servers end up making quite a bit more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage

[pfranz]

This is not legal, but often if you're a waiter/waitress and report you're making less than minimum wage and want to get paid the difference they take that as you're not performing well enough and will fire you.

[zaksoup]

You’re right that employers must make up the difference by law, and I’m sure that many workers with tipped wages may take home more than their minimum wage equivalent, however that is not the norm, and the tipping wage has significantly worse outcomes than the standard minimum wage. Regardless, my point was that tipping cannot simply be boiled down to “I am being guilted into paying for a performance” and is significantly more nuanced for all involved.

Summary of relevant research: https://www.epi.org/blog/seven-facts-about-tipped-workers-an...

In particular, point 5 from the linked summary makes a strong case that a significant portion of workers making the tipped minimum wage do not receive the difference from their employers.

[dandellion]

As someone from a place where tipping doesn't exist, the whole concept of tipping seems crazy to me.

[spilk]

As someone from a place where you tip just about anything, it is crazy to me as well. I want flat, upfront prices.

[WC3w6pXxgGd]

Tipping is 99% of the time guilt-based.