[product50]

You have no concrete points. Read my thread again and come back with a solid reply. China is losing the trust battle and it doesn't matter whether they are actually doing anything wrong or not. There is no point getting angry.

BTW while you are at it on Chinese access to IP. It is extremely clear that they are doing everything in their power to get access to it. Whether that is through illegal means such as the recent arrest of Chinese citizen in Belgium, or detention of another Chinese national working for Apple's self driving cars or even DuPont formally launching a complaint to US administration regarding it. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[dang]

Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome on HN, so please don't do it here.

[product50]

What do you mean? I really didn't mean anything nationalistic. All I am trying to explain is how China may have lost the trust narrative and that is it. I really admire China and continue to be impressed by the rapid progress they have achieved in the past decade across a no. of fields. However, now they are at a stage where they can't just make decisions unilaterally for just for their own benefit. If they do, then they start losing trust and face repercussions like they are.

The parent commenter is on a mission explaining how China is a target of some anti-China propaganda. My goal was to showcase some examples where he might be wrong.

I apologize if this came off as nationalistic.