[xemoka]

I love CSS Grid, but still can't use it because of support for IE11. There's still just too many windows 7 users, hopefully not for too much longer.

What is webflow doing about that? Do you provide some measure of automated fallback to flex box?

[namuol]

About 90% of users use a browser that supports the latest spec in full [1], and IE11 supports an older version of the spec and requires `-ms-` prefixing (which we do output), so hopefully most simple uses of grid in Webflow will work for IE11 users. That said I wouldn't say we officially support "out of the box" CSS grid support in IE11.

Right now we have only implemented a _subset_ of the spec; we'll be doing a more thorough audit of IE11 support as we add support for more sophisticated grid features, as those are more likely going to need some kind of built-in fallback.

In the meantime I would encourage folks that need custom fallback behavior to harness site-wide custom code; Webflow outputs pretty straightforward HTML and CSS so it should be easy to manually create fallback styles.

[1] https://caniuse.com/#feat=css-grid

[brryant]

At least from what we see on webflow.com (> 1MM sessions a month) there have only been 595 IE11 sessions according to GA, so that's less than 0.06%.

Windows7 had 6.8% of all sessions but seems like most of them are using a modern browser.

All really good signs for web developers out there!

[vosper]

Doesn't that just tell you that most (web) designers aren't using IE 11, because that's the audience for webflow.com?

It's an interesting statistic, but it's not news, unfortunately, and doesn't really tell us anything about either the big picture, or help people whose audience does include a lot of IE 11 users.

[a_humean]

My clients all default to using IE 11, which is pretty standard in enterprise. Web developers might be using Chrome and Firefox, but the ~50 year old CFO of <insert large firm> is using IE because that's what IT have as the default because they have to support a ton of curf that only works in IE. If it doesn't work in the default browser the user won't use it and IT won't accept it.

It's a miracle that we can use flexbox as the bugs in IE11 have easy mitigations and most IT departments have at least upgraded to IE11 in recent years.

Cool site btw, I've bookmarked it for later.

[bluetwo]

If your tool doesn't support IE11, it seems like you wouldn't get as many IE11 users...

Almost all my clients use IE11 by default...

[int0x80]

Do you fall back to flexbox?

[kaishiro]

While you need to use IE11 specific props it's actually fairly easy to get CSS grids working back in IE11. For page or regional layouts it's been my go to for the past year now.