[gavinpc]

Or be from MIT? Not sure which debate you saw, but I recently watched an Intelligence Squared about "the promise of AI" in which he made a similar argument, along with many others. His team jumped 29% percent audience agreement in the post-poll.

I don't know how many in the audience would know the reference, but the fact that he worked directly with Minsky made it a pretty lopsided debate, in terms of credentials.

[simulate]

Thanks for describing this. I wanted to see this debate myself. For others who might want to watch it, it's available on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/yC_dfbxQqRI

[ArrayList]

Absolutely phenomenal. I hadn't actually heard of Jaron Lanier until today but now I'm a big fan.