[expertentipp]

EU countries acting unanimously towards China would mean the "predatory exporter" countries would grab the whole cake, the rest would be traditionally losers at their own fault. Only acting individually the countries like e.g. Czechia or even Poland can get a chance to trade with China. The long term negative consequences are irrelevant as this is perspective exceeding the duration of their parliaments' terms of office.

[raverbashing]

Your assertion of Poland/Czechia not trading with China is easily-provable BS https://tradingeconomics.com/czech-republic/imports-by-count...

I wonder if there are some ulterior motive in the increased amount of anti-EU comments here on this site

[def_true_false]

Presumably, they meant that Czechia and Poland currently act individually and thus have a chance to trade with China, which they could lose otherwise.

[thefounder]

Individually they get the worst deal. Just ask average Joe to do business with a big corporation and see what kind of deal he gets.

[expertentipp]

Acting as a union Germany, France, and UK would get everything, some hand outs for Spain and Italy, any profits skillfully funeled through Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, and Netherlands. The general population getting low quality tat "Made in China".

[emn13]

Somewhat aside: it's a bit of a shame the netherlands gets the blame in these tax-dodging stories, because the issue is actually that laws differ between countries (i.e. countries with laws identical to the netherlands aren't vulnerable to the tax dodge), and as it so happens, the netherlands' tax system is... not quite as crappy as that of most other countries. Still crappy, mind you. Just not as bad.

I.e. the appropriate solution would be for (e.g., to pick on a particularly bad tax code) the US and germany to simply dump their tax codes wholesale and copy the Netherlands, rather than the converse. Because seriously, some tax codes are just asking to be abused. Plug this hole, wait for the next one...

The cynical side of me doesn't think it's coincidental that the loopholes are so gaping. Oh well.

[vetinari]

Right now, industries in Eastern Europe are "not allowed" to trade directly with China, India or Russia. Anything they produce and is sold outside EU must go through German or other western company. Guess where the profits stay.

See also sanctions against Russia: the trade of everyone _except Germany_ went down; overall the trade is the same. Cui bono?

[gruez]

>Right now, industries in Eastern Europe are "not allowed" to trade directly with China, India or Russia

source?

[raverbashing]

Looks like the fake news production is in full power

[vetinari]

Yeah, sure. And the fact that Bulgaria with Hungary cannot have their gas pipeline (South Stream), but Germany can (Nord Stream 2), is just another piece of fake news. Right?

It is certainly not about who will control the trade, everything is just coincidence. Sure thing.

[anonymousDan]

This is such BS. Can you provide evidence?

[Latteland]

It is wrong that they can't trade with China. Billions of dollars a month go to China to Europe in trade.

[bushin]

> Cui bono?

Belarus.

[Latteland]

The small authoritarian countries in Europe can bring everything down, just like the Irish tax issue. It's worth China bribing small countries to get their way, whether outright or through special deals.

[expertentipp]

lol, the only truly authoritarian state lying entirely in Europe is Belarus and it is not in EU neither is that small.

[pas]

Smaller members have a lot of leverage in the EU.