[alexandercrohde]

Exactly. VCs' self-interest will always be to extract maximum work out of engineers, hoping to make themselves from 100-millionaires into billionaires.

If you're going to work at such a place then acknowledge you may be getting paid to put up with tantrums of the ultra-rich when their money likely goes away (as most startups fail). Don't internalize it.

[fsloth]

"VCs' self-interest will always be to extract maximum work out of engineers,"

And engineers are completely in their right to disagree to insane working hours. What's the additional leverage VC:s hold?

I've never understood this propensity to claim that it's impossible to avoid insane working hours. Sure it is. Just don't do it.