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by redthrowaway 2813 days ago
I don't remember Steve Jobs calling random people pedophiles or committing a little light securities fraud while high.

Elon brings incredible value to his companies. He also brings incredible risk. The error his fans make is in assuming the two are inseparable--that you can't have the space visionary without the libel, or the automotive and energy revolutionary without the fraud.

I think this is a mistake. You could solve most of Elon's problems by giving someone the ability to preview his tweets before he sends them. I can't see how putting a broadcast delay on his twitter feed would stop him from building cars and rockets.

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Steve Jobs stole $5k from his best friend Steve Wozniak https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/steve-wozniak-cried-jobs-kept-atar...

He denied, for many years, that he was a father of his daughter and, while a millionaire, didn't support his daughter or her mother financially.

He was investigated by SEC for, wait for it, securities fraud (stock options backdating including his 7.5 million stock options). He wasn't charged. His CFO and General Counsel weren't so lucky. https://www.cnet.com/news/how-jobs-dodged-the-stock-option-b...

He certainly was an actual frequent drug user, not a one time marijuana puffer.

And many more https://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-jerk-2011-10#ever...

This is not to say that one jerk justifies another but to point the power of narrative.

Musk has already achieved more than Jobs (I put creating 5 companies and dominating fricking space industry, from nothing, in less than 2 decades a bit higher than overseeing development of iPod and iPhone).

But make a few mis-steps on twitter, report it nationally by click hungry press and suddenly he's irresponsible, reckless, drug addicted man child who has to be reigned in by adults.

I’d also mention creating a cartel with other tech companies to keep wages down.
Not just wages, but mobility, there is a person attached to those wages.
I put creating 5 companies...

Zip2, x.com, SpaceX, Boring Company. Elon didn't create Solar City or Tesla. What am I missing?

Apple did more than ipod and iphone. You also missed Next and sale of Pixar at $7 B
Did Musk created his rocket all by himself? Or did he merely overseen the development?

Also, Jobs did far more than iPod/iPhone. Both in Apple and in his other companies.

Everything we have heard on the subject suggests he has done meaningful engineering work on the rocket. This fact should not at all minimize the contributions of others, which are also very substantial. Nor should it take away from the accomplishments of Steve Jobs.