[ThomPete]

Humans have had to deal with climate change for all our existence and to think that the only problem with regards to the climate is human-made illustrates how absurd the discussion have become.

The biggest opportunity to solve, whatever affect humans have is through technological progress, not beliving humans basic instinct and behavior is somehow going to change. Humans are both rational and irrational, mostly irrational. There is no such thing as a rational society it's simply not how nature works.

Humans won't change, our kids are some of the biggest users of the technology we developed and they will also be both benefitters and further developers of ways to deal with the never ending challenges nature provides us.

So yes we actually do need to think about climate change as something that always happens to us and then do something about those changes.

Blaming humans for not being rational is the least useful thing to do.

[CharlesW]

> Humans have had to deal with climate change for all our existence…

Not like this: https://xkcd.com/1732/

[ThomPete]

Compared to where they were technologically it's not that far off.

Nature doesn't give us a safe environment we make unsafe, it gives us an unsafe and hostile environment we try to make safe. Yes, that has consequences, consequences that aren't solved by wishing we were more rational.