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by russellbeattie 2823 days ago
Coffeescript - like Typescript - is a non-language. There are no native VMs for either. They have to be transpiled to work. If you're writing in either language, you're basically using large DSL macros which pump out JavaScript. Think PHP for scripting.

J2EE wasn't just a framework, it was core enhancements to the Java language, which caused a ton of bloat. EJBs, JSF, annotations, XML configurations, etc. Very similar to Typescript's bloat it adds on top of JavaScript. (You can't argue that it's not all bloat, as the resulting JS it produces runs fine without it all.)
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linkmotif 2823 days ago
> a non-language

It has a BNF that’s different from any other language, so it’s definitely a language. A language isn’t defined by its runtime.

> Think PHP for scripting.

PHP is a language...

> J2EE wasn't just a framework

What language features did J2EE introduce?

> You can't argue that it's not all bloat, as the resulting JS it produces runs fine without it all

Yeah, just like C, which compiles yo machine code, is complete bloat.

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russellbeattie 2823 days ago
I love pedantic, stubborn techies. You asked how one goes from Coffeescript/J2EE to TS, as you apparently couldn't understand and considered it bizarre. I (and another commenter) explained what everyone else seemed to grasp that you couldn't, and now you're nit-picking simply to win an argument.

You're right, it's all just machine code in the end. Real programmers use a magnetized needle and a steady hand. You totally win.

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