[chobeat]

> Startups often include difficult and intense work environment

Compared to the USA? Lol, you have no clue. The standard for a software engineer in SV is to take drugs to work 12 hours a day 6 days a week, pay a fucking high rent living with 4 other people and if he's foreigner and freshly arrived, he has to suck his boss' cock everyday because they might take away his visa sponsorship and put him into troubles.

In Berlin most people I know work less than 8 hours a day, can afford to have their own apartment at their first or second job and save enough money and energy to go travel somewhere every 3 months. Because you know, we have 30 days of holidays per year.

[dang]

In addition to being uncivil, this is wildly wrong ("The standard for a software engineer in SV") and you misread the parent comment.

Please post civilly and substantively, or not at all.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[friedman23]

> Compared to the USA? Lol, you have no clue. The standard for a software engineer in SV is to take drugs to work 12 hours a day 6 days a week

Completely false, the standard is more like 35 hour work weeks with "work from home" one day a week. Judging from the fact that you know how people work in Berlin I'm going to guess you have no personal experience with SV work culture and have only read some horror stories that are not at all representative of what work is like for the average software engineer in SV.

[mrhackerpoland]

Startups are not average cushy corporate job.

The only way to get any startup to work in EU is by importing immigrants and they'll work hard on their own and compensating them appropriately and making sure they can reach top ranks in a company otherwise no one will ne motivated to work hard.

Germany has infrastructure. Taxes are not that bad.

Any country which will accept foreigners with open heart and give them opportunities will have plenty of startups.

There are still clubs in Germany which do not accept people of color.