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by whatshisface
2825 days ago
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Although I see the reasoning, I'm still not comfortable with the proof. It sounds to me like "plug something in to the Zeta function, observe that it isn't a nontrivial zero, conclude that there are no nontrivial zeros." Even if it seems completely intuitve to me I still wouldn't consider it proven. |
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But the wider point I want to make is that there's no gap between the two. _Real proofs aren't fully expanded._ If you've worked with a theorem prover like CoQ, it becomes painfully clear how many steps even the simplest proof skips. For example, the proof that the sqrt of 2 is irrational is really easy:
https://www.math.utah.edu/~pa/math/q1.html
But look at how many steps this skips, if you want to get close to actual axioms and definitions:
- You squared both sides of an equation. In this case, that's fine because you're only doing forward reasoning, but if you wanted to reason backwards you'd also have to check that both sides had the same sign to start.
- You multiplied by q^2. That's only valid if q^2 is nonzero. Now intuitively we know that q^2 is nonzero, since q is nonzero. But it needs a proof.
- You deduced that p was even from the fact that p^2 was even. How do you prove that? My first thought is to use the fundamental theorem of arithmetic. I don't know about you, but my intuition completely glossed over the fact that the proof that sqrt(2) is irrational made use of the fundamental theorem of arithmetic when I first read it. Either that, or there's another way to prove this; what is it?
Now, you could expand this proof to include all the steps. But we don't bother, because it's painstaking and not actually that likely to catch flaws in the proof, because we intuitively know these things. Likewise, I feel like the triangle proof is the same way: it skips over some things, but we intuitively know it's okay and you could expand it (to talk about commutativity of translation and rotation) but there's usually not much reason to bother.
Although it's a lot more obvious how to go about expanding the proof that sqrt(2) is irrational, I'll give you that.