[vmchale]

> You see a lot of people holding up Rust precisely because we've been there for the last 5/10/15/20 years. The day I don't have to write a makefile or build yet another CMakeLists.txt is the day I rejoice.

Ironically, cargo is one of the areas the rust ecosystem falls down completely. Not to mention, there's no ABI...

> What Rust offers is another option in the native, non-GC'd language space.

True, and while this is great in principle for embedded development, not using a GC is overrated.

> Rust gives you the option of dropping down to that level

Well, if you're not dealing with the linker, you're not at "that level"