[AceJohnny2]

Indeed. Rust is the only new contender in the field of systems programming, where C++ has to contend with decades of negative mindshare (C++11: "I've changed! I promise!"), and D, well, never really took off (because it started off in the early Internet era as a commercial compiler?).

[lasagnaphil]

There is also Zig, which seems nice as a C replacement but still highly unstable, and Jai, which is also a nice C replacement but currently has no publicly available compiler yet... So for the time Rust is the only new systems programming language (And please don’t say Go/Nim is a contender, they’re good languages in their own ways but having a garbage collector disqualifies it fron that categorization)

[geezerjay]

> Jai, which is also a nice C replacement but currently has no publicly available compiler yet...

If there is no compiler then there is no programming language.

[timClicks]

Well, there are videos of code being compiled. But nothing verifiable outside of the Jai team.

[geezerjay]

> Well, there are videos of code being compiled.

There are videos of nazi bases on the moon.

[majewsky]

If that counts as existing, then cold fusion exists.

[potiuper]

Of course https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ColdFusion exists.

[pjmlp]

No language that drops C compatibility while having the same manual memory management is an actual contender.

Yes having a GC is a contender, because not all GCs are implemented the same way, and C did not eliminate Assembly as well.

So if a systems language, with GC, covers 95% of use cases. We can happily use something else for those remaining 5%, while enjoying better productivity and safety.

Companies like Astrobe manage to have enough customers to keep their Oberon compiler for bare metal deployments business alive, just as one possible example.

[kiriakasis]

Midori looked really interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_(operating_system)

[vmchale]

ATS is in a better state than Zig/Jai lol