[projectileboy]

I disagree; Clojure on Google App Engine is a pretty solid platform for web development,and by now there's a lot of online help to get you started.

But your first sentence says it all - depends on what you're looking for. If you're outside of the cloud (by choice or necessity) Ruby/Rails, Python/Django, or even Groovy/Grails are all tough to beat.

[JoelMcCracken]

Yeah, its just the whole "there are lots of gems" argument, and ruby is a pretty nice language anyway.