[jtl]

Except you are completely wrong with your hypothesis or understanding of the situation. This is an issue with Hacker News, so called armchair experts providing their analysis.

The majority are not complicit in anything. Fundamentalists have killed more muslims in a year in some of these countries than in total in the west or any other non Muslim country.

This rhetoric that somehow muslim populations don't cooperate with law enforcement when in fact they have been the greatest victims is frankly dishonest.

I think a lot of people would benefit from looking at the facts rather than trying to push their pseudoscientific theories on the internet.

The issue here is actually pretty clear cut. You have a stateless people systematically killed and eradicated by Buddhist extremists. I suggest people do a deep dive on the actual crisis.

[Freak_NL]

> I think a lot of people would benefit from looking at the facts rather than trying to push their pseudoscientific theories on the internet.

These pseudoscientific theories are slowly becoming salonfähig (again) in public discourse. Populist politicians worldwide are becoming bolder and less restrained in uttering unprovable or downright hateful claims about 'race' and religion.

The facts don't seem to matter all that much any more in this post-truth landscape.

> The issue here is actually pretty clear cut.

I would have expected anyone on HN to be able to grasp that — with just a bare minimum of reading or watching reputable newspapers or televised news — but apparently not.

[TangoTrotFox]

Don't you think it would be useful to provide impartial evidence that clearly supports your statements? I can. But to clarify something - this issue is not only restricted to Islamic extremism. For instance in times past the Irish Republican Army fit the exact same pattern. It's a typical issue that society runs into, and it's rarely overcome in a desirable fashion. Anyhow, back to data. Pew in 2013 did a rather extensive study on Islamic views [1] around the world.

They did not survey in Myanmar, but they did survey in Bangladesh which is where many are choosing to migrate towards. They unfortunately chose to obfuscate their questioning on terrorism by mixing 'often/sometimes' and 'rarely/never' so you can't actually see the percent that answer never. In any case, even with this padding it's not pretty. In Bangladesh 26% of people responded that suicide bombing is justified 'often/sometimes'. Other data including 82% believing that Sharia Law should be the national law (82% in Bangladesh) further emphasizing the problem, and the zeitgeist. The Muslim population in Bangladesh is 146 million. That means, in that one country, you have some 38 million people that thinking killing other people by suicide bombing is acceptable 'sometimes' or 'often'. That's a major problem.

Anyhow, if you have any impartial data to share, I'd be happy to read and consider it. I'm always open to considering that my biases may be incorrect. Something that can not be said for many people...

[1] - http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religi...

[firic]

This survey makes it seem like more Muslims are radicalized than you seem to think based on what you wrote

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-surv...

[jtl]

First of all that is looking at British Muslims who are a tiny minority of the 1.6-2 billion Muslims in the world.

Maybe take a look at the number of muslim civilians killed in Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Bangladesh by the number of Muslim extremists. It's a lot more than you seem to think.

[firic]

British Muslims would seem to be one of the least radical Muslims. After all, they don't kill gays like Muslims in Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen etc.

I never claimed that radical Muslims don't want to kill other Muslims. In fact the Sunni and Shiite conflict probably killed more Muslims than non-Muslims.

[reacweb]

"The majority are not complicit in anything."

I disagree. I have heard a mother who was complaining that the police had not arrested her son earlier before he became a gangster. I think she was complicit by not giving a proper education to her son.

[jtl]

I am sorry I don't follow. You think most Muslims grow up to gangsters? There's about 1.6bn Muslims in the world, and the majority of them do not engage in criminal activities. Have you ever been to a Muslim country? Crime rates in some of those places is ridiculously low compared to some western countries (i.e. UAE etc)