[smoothy2]

Listen, I take a huge exception to the way you said things. As a minority (non-white) person, I don't need you to speak for me and me to be your pet.

In fact, your attitude is highly patronizing and condescending, the fact that you don't see it, is problematic.

Linux Kernel was being run ok so far. Sure there were rants from Torvalds which went overboard sometimes but accept it as a quirk of the maintainer and move on. Including this COC is a huge can of worms though. Now you can be Brendan Eiche'd out of any open source project. When that happens, perhaps you'll be celebrating a win for your progressive values but a more real happening at that point would've been loss of good open source software which some of your pet minorities could have used.

[notacoward]

> As a minority (non-white) person, I don't need you to speak for me and me to be your pet.

Nor was I making you one. There's nothing patronizing about pointing out how language can affect different people differently. Surely you're aware that others do need and appreciate people who will use whatever advantages they have to help raise awareness of these issues. Please don't use your own personal good fortune to promote an agenda that prevents others from following you up the ladder.

[smoothy2]

I'm not sure you realize but this exact tone of discourse comes across as patronizing. Please stop playing messiah for minorities.

Also, I'm not some super rich privileged person. As a matter of fact, I'm unemployed right now but privilege or no privilege, there's no reason to cripple good open source software which is already one of the most equalizing resources that has been produced by mankind.

[s73v3r_]

" there's no reason to cripple good open source software"

Nobody is doing that. No one. That is not happening at all. I'm sorry, but people not being assholes to each other is not going to affect the quality of software in a negative manner.

[smoothy2]

You mean there is no loss of valuable contributions when people get Brendon Eiche'd for reasons unrelated to open source project?

[s73v3r_]

You mean when someone openly says to their LGBT employees, 'You are less valuable. You are not deserving of the same basic rights as straight people. You are second class citizens'? Mozilla seems to be doing just fine.

[Vinnl]

They were not play messiah for minorities; they were explaining how some people (i.e. not all minorities) prefer to be addressed in a way different from other people -- the fact that you consider his tone patronising when I don't is proof of that. And the point of the comment is that we should keep that in mind when conversing. Because I'm doing that, I can now imagine why you might consider it patronising, and can try (not necessarily succeed, unfortunately) to make it more palatable to you.

(Unless of course you consider that patronising as well, in which case, my non-patronising advice would be: deal with it. Either way, I hope they'll still be able to make comments like the above in the future :) )

[ashleyn]

As another minority, it wasn't concerning to you that Eich actively lobbied against equal rights for a particular demographic? See, I'm tolerant of different viewpoints practiced consensually and privately; lobbying against those who don't affect your own life is a bit below the belt.