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by thr912 2826 days ago
the problem isn't the collective observation. The problem is that there is no symmetrical collective observation that is even possible.

it's not common to see similar anecdotes and think "we" are cheaters:

https://www.plagiarism.org/article/plagiarism-facts-and-stat... https://www.quora.com/Everyone-is-cheating-in-my-AP-Chemistr... https://abc13.com/education/nearly-entire-class-caught-cheat... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfqFEiP10_E

people cheat. wells fargo, mlb, cycling, track and field, doctors, prosecutors.

not only the employees, athletes, and students, but the ceo's, refs, judges, coaches, and the teachers cheat too:

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/04/why-te...

none of these examples are isolated incidents, and are patterns in our own culture. And if you live in this system, and the one pattern you observe is that Chinese students cheat, then there is probably some bias in your thinking.