[rwcorbett]

> We toss in JavaScript gizmos to attempt to improve the UI to desktop standards, but these gizmos are clunky and browser-version-sensitive.

Agreed! doesn't anyone know how to write vanilla JavaScript anymore?

relevant: http://vanilla-js.com/

[BigJono]

Pretty hard to learn vanilla JavaScript when you're stuck in the mud 8 abstractions above it, trying to keep up.