[prolikewh0a]

>So the question we have to ask is do we want to live in a society where this treatment is legal?

Because we live in this fantasy land of the [dead] 'American Dream', where if you work hard, absolutely bust your ass and kill yourself for 70 years, you'll get to be Jeff Bezos too. If you're complaining about your job, just get a new one, or pull your boot straps up and accept it, it's that easy. We're constantly told to suck it up and accept it. We're constantly told that these businesses are job creators and should be praised for it and when we criticize them, it's not their fault, it's the workers. We don't criticize because we can lose our job and it's extremely easy to get into homelessness now, or default on the enormous amounts of credit everyone has. The propaganda and indoctrination start from birth and is built into society. The atmosphere changed from workers having control, to businesses having full control. Businesses can't exist without workers, so workers should have control. Anyone who says workers shouldn't have control is a shareholder or business owner.

To change things will take a lot of work, and possibly a major fast economic decline. People have ignored the economic decline of the working class since the late 60's, early 70's. Mainstream media and newspapers work to suppress any workers movements and tell you how great everything is (Noam Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent goes over how this works).

[tengbretson]

> Because we live in this fantasy land of the [dead] 'American Dream', where if you work hard, absolutely bust your ass and kill yourself for 70 years, you'll get to be Jeff Bezos too.

This never has and never will be the American Dream. The American Dream isn't a rags to riches fairy tale. The American Dream is about inter-generational class mobility. If you bust your tail all your life, you can raise your children's quality of life to a higher standard than your own.

That's all its ever been and its alive and well today.

[prolikewh0a]

>The American Dream is about inter-generational class mobility. If you bust your tail all your life, you can raise your children's quality of life to a higher standard than your own.

Nope. You're just proving my point too. Thanks.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/02/14/american...

[tengbretson]

If you care to read it, your article doesn't refute anything about what I said.

> An American born to a household in the bottom 20% of earnings, for instance, only has a 7.8% chance of reaching the top 20% when they grow up.

Again, this article is about intra-generational mobility. The American Dream is about inter-generational mobility.

[prolikewh0a]

It shows that your idea of the 'American Dream' is nearly completely dead and a thing of history. The 'American' Dream exists in other first world countries far more than it does here.

If you need another source that social mobility is 'poor' in the USA [1]

[1] http://www.poverty.ac.uk/report-usa-inequality-social-mobili...

[majewsky]

> The American Dream is about inter-generational mobility.

You're making that claim without any evidence to back it up.

[ArchTypical]

Sounds a lot like rags to riches. SMH