[CaptainZapp]

Well, we don't all agree that the changes are tantamount to "damage", first of all.

I'd wager that anybody who suddenly had an illegal hotel running out of her neighboring appartment will very strongly disagree with that statement.

Unless you personally made that experience, in a house where parties live for 30 years+, you are not aware what a massive impact this can have on your quality of life.

Since I've been there I stopped using AirBnb, period.

[jMyles]

As I said, I think it's time to question whether an environment such as NYC is a realistic place to live for 30 years+ - is that sustainable for our species?

I think that the availability of short-term housing in NYC in particular is a net benefit for society, even if it adds an uncomfortable dose of reality for many people who had the extreme privilege of growing up there.

[emodendroket]

Generation after generation of people have lived in the same locality for about as long as we've had agriculture so I'd say it is pretty sustainable. I think it's odd that a jet-setting tourist should be lecturing the locals about their "extreme privilege."

[jMyles]

Did you just call people who take the $14 bus ride from New Paltz to NYC "jet-setting tourists"?

Being born in NYC doesn't mean the city belongs to you. I'm a New Yorker too.

[emodendroket]

In the sense that New Paltz is in New York State, sure, you are a New Yorker if you live in New Paltz. But you're not a resident of New York City, not because of where you were born but because you do not reside there.

[bluntfang]

You're strawmanning. It doesn't matter if you think people should live there for 30+ years, because that's what's already happening.

[jMyles]

Yeah, well, those of us who live there for < 8 weeks out of the year is already happening too.

I don't understand the strawman - what argument did I mischaracterize in an attempt to make it appear weaker for the purposes of responding to it?

[bluntfang]

You're ignoring the fact that 30million people already live there by posing that people shouldn't be doing that in this day and age. It doesn't matter what your opinion of those 30 million people are, the fact is that it is the current condition.

[jMyles]

...but I can say the exact same thing:

You're ignoring the fact that millions of people already live for only a few weeks out of the year there by posing that people shouldn't be doing that in this day and age. It doesn't matter what your opinion of those people are, the fact is that it is the current condition.

[bluntfang]

citation please