[jondubois]

Obviously you're not familiar with Marissa Mayer's work.

I remember that before Mayer, Yahoo Mail was lightweight, fast and it displayed emails chronologically and in a well categorized way.

After Marissa Mayer joined Yahoo, the Yahoo email client became slow and clunky and it grouped emails together in a strange way which made it hard to find stuff; thankfully I was able to figure out a way to disable this 'feature'. That's not even mentioning all the Yahoo Mail hacking scandals that happened on Mayer's watch.

Also, the new Yahoo logo is bad.

[danso]

I'm aware that people didn't like Mayer's vision or decisions at Yahoo -- I'm not one to judge because I didn't use any Yahoo products during her time there, except for Tumblr and Flickr, both of which were either left alone or made some incremental improvements.

What I'm confused about in particular is why the author feels the need to snarkily slam Meyer here. Obviously she's not involved with Google's current decisions on Finance. And I'm pretty sure she wasn't involved with shutting Picasa down, which happened in early 2016. I've read articles about Mayer not being a popular manager at Google, or getting along with the chain of command, but I don't recall her being a prime mover in shutting products down while at GOogle

So why does she deserve snark when clearly there are Google executives who actually made and oversaw the decisions to shut down Picasa and Finance? Instead of doing the simple Googling needed to find who are currently the product leads, the author appears to throw in a lazy non-sequitur of Fuck Marissa Mayer, amirite?.

As for it being rooted in sexism -- who knows? It is kind of bizarre that the one Googler the author chooses to call out by name is not only a woman, but a woman who hasn't been at Google for the past 6 years.

[swaggyBoatswain]

Had to look her up, I remember now

Her gender bias discrimination / sexism is what drove many to leave the company, draining the company of its best employees

Other things in her tenure.

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Ex-Yahoo employee sues Marisa Mayer claiming she led an illegal purge of male employees.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3827244/Ex-Yahoo-emp...

Yahoo fine 35 million dollars for failing to disclose data breach.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/24/17275994/yahoo-sec-fine-2...

3 billion users affect by yahoo data breach.

https://www.avclub.com/yahoo-now-says-all-3-billion-user-acc...

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Basically, nothing go has come out of her working at yahoo, AFAIK. Everything went downhill when she became in chargeod

[leoh]

I'm not sure how you can hold Meyer directly responsible for the clunky Yahoo email client. This reads as incredibly sexist.

[jondubois]

The new Yahoo mail client was her incentive, it was all over the news and she was actively claiming credit for it. The worst part is that she was claiming that it was faster but all users felt that it was the opposite.

https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2012/12/11/m...

[pantheon]

Why is it sexist? She did terrible at Yahoo. That's fact. Or you say, just because she is woman, people should say she did a good job?

[pm90]

No but they shouldn't single her out either. I don't see him slamming any number of male tech executives who made mistakes.

[danso]

I agree, that that is the relevant point. There should be any number of Google execs to blame, whose period of employment actually coincided with the Picasa/Finance changes, and with some of many other past Google product shutdowns/overhauls. That the author chooses to rip on Mayer -- who hasn't been at Google in the past 6 years -- makes me expect that she was legendarily responsible for other Google product fails, but that doesn't seem the case.

What does Mayer's floundering in her post-Googler-career as Yahoo's CEO have to do with the product failures of Picasa and Finance? Referencing her in this context makes as little sense as referencing Andy Rubin -- another prominent Googler who went on to flounder as CEO.

[pantheon]

You can single out whoever you want. It is not sexist. What is wrong with the world?!

[pm90]

Consistently singling out a certain group of people betrays bias and likely animus towards that group. For this author, that group seems to be women.