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by hprotagonist 2843 days ago
I agree that crash is the proper term, but i just forgot.

>, because where as a motorcyclists vision is significantly impaired from the helmet...

This is incorrect. My vision on the bike is not impaired by my helmet. My field of view in a car is more restricted -- and critically in SMIDSY situations, the peripheral field is obstructed by the pillars holding the roof up. SMIDSYs happen when the car fails to give way to the bike; usually this is due to the fact that bikes are small visual targets or unexpected ones. We may mitigate these problems by raising the visual salience of the bike, but we solve them by designing intersections such that they can't happen.

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> My vision on the bike is not impaired by my helmet.

I've never worn a motorcycle helmet, but the visor seems so small that you'd lose some of the peripheral vision.

I agree that it would often be the car at fault, but as a cyclist I wouldn't care who was at fault I'd just want to avoid the crash. I'd only crash into the car if my peripheral vision missed the car.

> we solve them by designing intersections such that they can't happen.

I agree, but I don't want to wait for governments to fix every single bad junction that exists in the world.

Having been a motorcyclist when I was younger and ostensibly more reckless (not that motorcyclists are more reckless) I can tell you from experiance that you have very little getting in your way visually. However in a car you have two pillars holding your roof up to your immediate left and right, and door frames and boot pillars over either shoulders.

As a motorcyclist you have way more situational awareness than other vehicles on the road.

You also quickly learn that other road users are blissfully unaware of you and you drive accordingly.

> but we solve them by designing intersections such that they can't happen.

How? I'm a cyclist who also has to contend with these same problems..

for cyclists (and i’m a cyclist too), the dutch basically have this solved. You do this: https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2018/02/20/a-common-urban...

For motorcycles, you mostly only have to ensure turn arrows as well as normal stoplights. Permitting lane-splitting also helps.