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by tkmo 2839 days ago
Of course this thread is guaranteed to be an absolute shit show, but it's revealing the level of intense emotiveness shown by your post and the one before it, and most of all by the Google execs.

Were this directed at a tiny ideological fraction of the population it could be OK, but we are talking about give or take half of the voters of the USA, UK, Poland, Hungary, Austria, etc., etc.

And when Google has such a near monopoly on massive swathes of the web that is quite concerning.

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Just two things. First, any hatred directed any group regardless of size is simply not acceptable in a free, modern society as it would undermine democratic principles.

Second, in a free and modern society it is ok to have diametrical oppossed views to any other Group. Which is an integral part of Democracy.

Funny enough, there are always people, mostly with pretty radical views, that are severly infuriated by contrarian views. The other way round it is just fine.

Not sure where you’re getting the numbers to back up your 50% claim. At most it is around 15% in UK, 30% in the US and somewhat higher in the Eastern European countries.

Alt right conservatism is not a mainstream ideology anywhere in the world. Nor will it ever the way things are going.

'Alt right' is a vague term, and has been since Richard Spencer claimed it and regular conservative folk stopped using it.

Strong border controls are quite obviously supported by far more than 15% of the UK population (and I say that as an immigrant to the UK) - look at the Brexit vote.

In proper terms, perhaps, but things like Trump, Brexit, and strongly anti-immigrant, populist conservative, leaders like Salvini, Orban, etc., in Europe, are all generally placed in the same camp by the media.

Ultimately we are discussing the visible rage and despisement towards the winnning side of a national US election vote. That is incredibly concerning coming from a company as powerful as Google, and we know the same sentiment is shared across Hollywood and the mass media.

The concern around Trump extends to close to 70% of the electorate according to recent polling. It isn’t isolated.

And given Trump’s anti-immigrant stance Google executives being immigrants themselves would have every right to voice their concern.

Google's executives are quite obviously not illegal immigrants. Pretending they're affected by tighter border controls is disingenuous.
Trump's stance is anti illegal immigrant which should not affect any Google execs.

Re: approval ratings, its a moot point. Trump has enjoyed generally similar approval ratings to Obama (at most single digit percentage points lower) and ultimately won a free and fair election in a first world Republic.

Having the leaders of a global monopoly megacorporation display this kind of disdain for the elected leader of the country and everyone who supports him, and (by implication) similar populist leaders across Europe (and their supporters), is extremely, deeply, disconcerting.

Electorate college? Gerrymandering?

And I hope you are not seriously stating that a company cannot have political views opposed to the government? It's either a democratic election (to have a legitimate government) which implies different opinions regardless of majorites or not (so that nobody can oppose the government). You cannot have it both ways.