[maxxxxx]

It's amazing that Americans keep putting up with a system that literally lies all the time, hides information , steals, has the power to bankrupt them at a whim and is full of corruption and conflicts of interest.

Especially considering that there are plenty of examples around the world for doing better. When you look around Europe they all are very different but none of them is even remotely as f...ed up as the US system is.

[nickjj]

We really have no choice. If we refuse to pay for health insurance then we're forced to pay penalties that are up to equal to the cost of bare bones insurance ($400ish+ a month per adult) which offer practically no coverage and constant headaches.

[maxxxxx]

"If we refuse to pay for health insurance"

Refusing health insurance is also not an option unless you accept to pay full cash in an emergency. Or you need to accept not to get any care.