[atlantic]

> Speech is like a weapon. They're not prohibited, and you're free to use them any way you see fit but you have to bear the consequences of misuse.

Agreed. And there are laws on the books for this; there always have been. The more recent concept of "hate speech" (to return to your original post) is entirely redundant, unless its intended use is censorship.

[close04]

That's pretty simple: hate speech is that speech that you think you're free to make and should get away with it but you actually shouldn't.

If the fact that something is "a recent concept" made it wrong we wouldn't really have concepts, would we? Hate speech and hate crimes are pretty clearly defined.

See what I was saying about that good use of the internet? You'd rather be here trying to prove me wrong rather that spending the time by yourself finding out why you're wrong.

[dang]

Can you please not do flamewars on HN? They break the guidelines and lead other people to post worse. We're trying to avoid that downward spiral.

I realize you didn't start it, but guilt amortizes out pretty evenly once people start going at it like this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html